User talk:Blue Sphere
"I came to this wiki because I've seen that it had some errors and there weren't some important pages." Please do tell us what is missing or incorrect, so we can fix it. --SpiritCrusherTalk • Contribs 18:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I think I didn't write the correct words :S. I saw that, for example, Blue Mountain Zone Act 2 page said that the music slot from the level was one from Mystic Realm. I changed it because the music was Rocky Mountain Zone Act 1, and it was an official theme. I also saw that Deep Sea first appeard in Sonic Robo Christmas Blast, in 2D, and the page doesn't tell that, so I wrote that information. Another missing information for example, is the original name from Egg Rock (Robotnirock), the Mine Maze's page, and the soundtrack (year 2000) music themes pages. I will help much as I can. I'm sorry, I will remove that from my page. Bye!--Blue Sphere 18:17, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
No, don't get me wrong, you don't need to remove that from your page. I think it's great you want to help.
So, going through your list one by one: The music for BMZ2 isn't from Rocky Mountain Zone, I don't know where you got that idea from. The song that's played is clearly the one from Mystic Realm. Second, the page for Deep Sea Zone is only about the level as it appears now, so mentioning the 2D version is out of place. That would be more fitting in an article about the Christmas SRB. Egg Rock's old name might be something that could actually get a short mention somewhere, but it doesn't really fit on the actual level pages. Minze Maze doesn't have a page because the level was scrapped before it got made. And I don't see why the old soundtrack music themes need their own pages. Not even the most recent soundtrack tunes have their own pages, and I don't think there would be much to write about. --SpiritCrusherTalk • Contribs 18:46, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, guess you're right. Sorry, I said something wrong. The music from BMZ2 is actually Mystic Realm's theme, but in the new soundtrack from SRB2 the BMZ2 music is Rocky Mountain's original song. Maybe we can make a page for Deep Sea in SRB2 and one for Deep Sea in SRB, because the levels are called the same way (you said that we can put that info in a Christmas page, but there isn't one, I think I'll make it). It's true, Mine Maze isn't done, and I don't know if it will, but I think that we can make a page so people who are intereted in it can know whre it's it music theme (actually called Multiplayer 7 in the soundtrack), tell that the level was going to appear but SRJr decided to don't do it, you know. Yes you're right, music themes' pages is a crazy thing, but we can make a page about both soundtracks (2000 one and 2010 one). Thank you!--Blue Sphere 18:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
The new soundtrack download has a lot of silly errors like that. The BMZ2 tune has nothing to do with Rocky Mountain Zone. In case you wonder why I deleted the soundtrack page you made, I decided that there simply isn't enough to say about the old soundtrack for it to have its own page. Thank you for your input anyway. --SpiritCrusherTalk • Contribs 13:08, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if it has errors. You can't say that it has errors. You don't know if SRB2 will feature that level or not, but the soundtrack says yes, and we can't say that it's wrong. The soundtrack page has information, and I wrote that info. The page doesn't have much info, but that's not a reason to erase it. It must have its own page, because it's part of SRB2's world! If you think there's an error with the soundtrack, tell STJr that they made a mistake, I want to know what will they answer to you... Thanks anyway for answering me. But I was in a wiki about a game, and I learned that before you do something all the community must make a consensus to deliberate before users do some actions.--Blue Sphere 01:23, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, I know for a fact that the BMZ2 tune has nothing to do with Rocky Mountain. Ask the dev team if you want it confirmed. Also, not everything in the SRB2 "world" needs its own page. The SRB2 Launcher page was deleted for similar reasons, there's nothing to say about it that you couldn't tell by just downloading it. I can't think of anything important or useful that could be said about the old soundtrack. --SpiritCrusherTalk • Contribs 05:08, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, Spirit, you have a fact, but I also have a fact, a way to tell you that, at least, BMZ2 must hve that little information in the Trivia part. I was in the Grand Theft Auto game series (one of the bests wikis, the spanish version) that has more than 5,000 pages, and that it because every page is an important page. Everything must have its own page because everithing is something, is information for the people. You can see that in Wikipedia. There are stupid pages with less information than otheones but they're still pages.--Blue Sphere 20:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Look, I'm actually part of the dev team and I can tell you with 100% certainty that the Midnight Freeze music track has absolutely nothing to do with the Rocky Mountain track. If the OST says it does, then Spazzo fails at something and we can all move on. End of discussion. -Mystic 20:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Just gonna drop in here for a second...
- Why would we put any extra trivia info in BMZ2? There's absolutely no correlation between it and the old soundtrack. Rocky Mountain was completely scrapped ages ago. (Damn it, Mystic, stop beating me to the punch!)
- Additionally, not everything needs its own page. Even when you use Wikipedia as an example, you have to consider that not everything is deemed worthy enough for an article. Otherwise, Articles for Deletion wouldn't exist. 犬夜叉(Inuyasha) 20:56, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, not every little thing needs it's own page just because it's "important". It's like you set out to build a kitchen, but it's actually a bunch of rooms, one with a fridge, one with the oven, one with the microwave, one for the sink, one for the fork, one fo the OTHER fork, and so on. Are they all inportant? Yes. Do they all need their own rooms? NO. Does every important thing on the wiki need it's own page if it can fit in a related page? NO. It's much easier to find things this way. Also, nobody wants to load a bran new page for a stub of info that is only related to one specific thing with it's own page. --D00D64 the Super Sexy 20:59, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Why do you guys talk before see? If you see the NEW soundtrack, you'll see that the "Blue Mountain Zone Act 2" music is the Rocky Mountain song from the old soundtrack. Please, D00D4, don't use that silly example because plates and forks don't have nothing to do here. Now, if we make a page for the entire room, I'm happy because now there's information telling all about that room. The easy way it's not the correct way, never. Also, uou say "nobody wants to...". Don't say nobody, because you don't know hoy which people is all and who is nobody. Don't talk for the rest, please. Do what you want. Thanks.--Blue Sphere 21:03, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- As Mystic said, Spazzo screwed that up. There's no correlation between BMZ2 and what's left of Rocky Mountain. At all. Period. 犬夜叉(Inuyasha) 21:05, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Look, Mystic said Rocky Mountain and Blue Mountain have nothing to do with each other. Mystic is the head of STJr, he knows what he's talking about. When Spazzo compiled the soundtrack, he simply mislabeled the Rocky Mountain track as BMZ2. That's an error, nothing more. Regarding the rest, I have no idea what you were even trying to say, sorry. --SpiritCrusherTalk • Contribs 21:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, but, if Spazzo screwed it all, why didn't the guys of STJr say that in srb2.com and fix what is bad?--Blue Sphere 21:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Because it's not particularly important? Considering how long that soundtrack has been up, this is the first I've even heard that he messed up. Clearly the OST is pretty low on the priority list of things to check for errors. I don't see your point. -Mystic 21:14, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
What is my point? I don't have a point. I don't know why, for example, you guys deleted the old soundtrack page. Can't people see that page? Does that page make your wiki a disaster? Is a bad page or its info is a lie? Sorry guys, I don't see your point.--Blue Sphere 21:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Because it's useless information, as proven by the fact that there is a mistake in the OST itself. It's not important at all. I don't see why you seem to be getting so worked up over something that simply isn't important. People requested we upload the OST, so Spazzo threw it together in an afternoon and uploaded it. He apparently made a mistake. Those two sentences could be the whole article, so that's just not helpful information to anyone. The far more helpful page is the one on MusicSlots, which provides a list along with the ID numbers for the level header and the information on where it's used. -Mystic 21:31, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it's a usless information, but it's information, and a wiki is like a diccionary, it must hve every little word, though it's a big definition or not. I don't care about why Spazzo trew the soundtrack, I care about the soundtrack itself. It's part of SRB2's worl, and the wiki must tell everything about SRB2's world, right? I don't want to sound like a bad or disgusting person, but there is people who would lik to know about the old soundtrack (I wanted to, so I looked for information and made the page) but you guys erased it! I think what, though it's useless or not, it's information and believe me, a big part in SRB2 (the game), because it has the music that was never used, but told us that some levels were cming, and others didn't.--Blue Sphere 21:39, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Exactly, you don't get it. You arn't seeing points. The point of my example clearly went over your head. The idea of the soundtrack page being taken out for uselessness was lost to you, because you think everything needs it's own page. MusicSlots was enough, we don't need a page for the whole soundtrack on it because we already have that, AND MusicSlots is more useful for modding info, which is what this Wiki is mostly about in the first place. Why have a soundtrack page when we have MusicSlots? And when I am referencing to "nobody", I'm referencing to the general consciousness, as in general users. No, nobody wants to open more tabs then they NEED to. Nobody being the Representative of most users in this case, because I'm sure one user will say they LOVE having 9001 tabs open, one for each bit of info, just to say they are not included in the general userbase. So "nobody" is a vauge example, at least when I refer to it. Nobody is just a lot easier to say than "general user consciousness". And a wiki is most certainly NOT a dictionary. Especially not this one, which is primarily a reference for modding. --D00D64 the "rather brash" indivisual 21:45, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
No, the Wiki is designed to provide all HELPFUL information about SRB2. This isn't helpful information. The MusicSlots page provides all the helpful information you'd ever need to know about the soundtrack. Useless information should be deleted to make it easier to find the useful information. The last thing we need around here is a newbie coming to try to find the information included in MusicSlots and instead finding your useless page with no helpful information on it, and then thinking that there isn't any more information and leaving without finding the answer he needs. -Mystic 21:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)